What do you take note of if you see a UAP? See this excellent list below put together by Dan Warren from chapter 33 in a copy of a US Air Force Physics Book called “Introductory Space Science” used from 1968-1970 (http://www.cufon.org/cufon/afu.htm). The list is also included in video 5 of 11 in Warren’s tweet below.
How high in the sky, direction (going north to south, south to east), distance from you
Altitude – old astronomer tip: hold your fist as far from you as possible. The size of your fist represents approximately 10 degrees. If you put the bottom of your first on the horizon, then the top of your first represents approximately 10 degrees above the horizon.
I plan on writing about UAP phenomena with relation to time. I will leave a nugget here with my conclusion that time travel to the past is physically impossible and, even if certain technologies were put into place, it would be so impractical that to achieve it would still be impossible. So I conclude that UAP are not from the future.
See this video of Lue Elizondo’s response when asked (paraphrased) by a viewer, Lonesome Space Cowboy, on the Curt Jaimungal YouTube show, “How would the world respond if we knew everything that Lue knew about UAP?” Remember that Elizondo was in charge of AATIP as well as having access to various top secret Special Access Programs (the things you see in the movies). In other words, he has seen much more than most Americans have. The first response is in the first video below. In the second video, Curt asked Lue to expand on his previous comment and this can be seen at the 1:27:50 to 1:36:00 timestamp. Then watch the entire video AFTER you’ve seen the other videos on this website so it makes sense to you.
I will write more later as an update to this post. However, putting up this video for now. It is an excellent presentation by Michai Morin on Project Unity’s YouTube channel on the history of UAP. There is also a great discussion following the presentation which offers more great information.
I will state however, I don’t agree with Morin’s conclusion that a highly controlling government is the only way for a civilization to survive. That will only destroy innovation and enjoyment of life. We will prosper and thrive as a free society, and more freedoms will be gained with the maturity of our civilization. It is the natural progression of humanity to attain more freedom (principle of entropy). Another thing, governments may come and go, but people and who they are doesn’t.
Great Infographic for UAP Timeline. Source information is in the image footer.
Lue Elizondo was asked by a viewer of TOE’s Youtube channel how would people react if we knew everything that Lue knew about the UAP phenomena. (Remember that Elizondo not only was the director of AATIP, but was also privy to various Special Access Programs – the top secret stuff you hear of in movies.) Elizondo responded with two adjectives – “Somber and Sobering.” In a second Youtube interview with TOE, the interviewer asked Lue to expand on that. The following is his statement, transcribed by me. I removed some of the redundant verbal fillers that are used in regular conversation. Start at 1:27:50 in this video: TOE
“Imagine, everything you’ve been taught – whether it’s through Sunday school, or through regular formal education in school, or what our political leaders have told us and yes, even maybe, our mothers and fathers around the dinner table have told us, or maybe, at bed time, about who we are, right, our background and our past. What if all of that turned out to be not entirely accurate? In fact, the very history of our species, the meaning what it means to be a human being and our place in this universe, what if all that is now in question? What if it turns out that a lot of things that we thought were one way, aren’t? Are we prepared to have that honest question with ourselves?
Are we prepared to recognize that we’re not at the top of the food chain, potentially? That we’re not the alpha predator? That we are, maybe, somewhere in the middle?
You know, it’s interesting because I was having a discussion with a friend not too long ago. A really, really – we call them grey beards in the government – really, really smart guy. I’m not going to mention his name, but I was talking to him probably a couple of months ago – and this is a guy who was always paid to solve the hard problems for the US government – Cold war – how do we solve that? Right? How do we do these big, big things? How do we go in and beat the Russians at their own game?
So this guy I respect tremendously, and we had a conversation. He said, ‘You know, Lou, Mankind’s been around for a little while, and for most of that time mankind’s been around, we’ve been smack in the middle of the food chain. We ate a lot of things, and a lot of things ate us. That’s just the bottom line. About 70,000 years ago, something fundamentally changed, something changed and our species was instantly catapulted to the very top of our planet as far as predatory animals. And now all of a sudden, we became the most feared. We were the most lethal and the most successful. In fact, most of the large species that existed on this planet went extinct because of us. Believe it or not because we were eating all of it.’
There were a couple of species that did very, very well with our ascension, our immediate ascension. We brought a couple of species with us. The dog is an example, where the dog species benefited greatly with mankind’s ascension as the alpha predator and wound up succeeding as well, very well off that.
That changed the entire global landscape of our planet almost overnight. Large animals went extinct because of us.
What if it turns out that there’s another species that is even higher on that ladder than we are? Do we need the social institutions that we have today? Will we need governmental and religious organizations that we have today if it turns out that there is something else or someone else that is technologically more advanced, and perhaps from an evolutionary perspective more advanced? Have we been wasting our time all this time, or are we doing exactly what we’re supposed to be doing?
Does it turn out that mankind is in fact just another animal in the zoo? Because we thought ourselves as a zookeeper before, but maybe we’re just another exhibit inside the zoo. What would that mean to us?
When I say sombering and sobering, I mean there’s going to come a point in this conversation where we’re going to have to do a lot of reconciling with ourselves, whatever that means, from whatever philosophical background you have. This is going to impact every single one of us the same, equally and yet differently. I think that’s important. Do we find ourselves in a situation where history may have to be rewritten? So that’s what I meant.”
Below is one of the best videos I’ve seen that describes the physics/characterisics of UAPs. In this presentation, it becomes very obvious why UAPs are far more advanced than anything we humans have made to date.
This post is only a summary of my thoughts on this issue. It is a work in progress.
I think the answer for now must be that UAP/UFO pose a danger to us. Until they willingly meet us in a friendly, open manner then we cannot assume they are friendly. We must be cautious. (This is assuming they have not established relations with any of our world leaders.)
We should not worry or feel bad about being cautious. An advanced, but friendly, alien species would respect our need to maintain our safety if they have not offered us a proper introduction.
We don’t show, usually, anger or attack a wild animal that growls at us when we are in its native territory. We keep a safe distance, don’t make sudden movements and cause them no harm. Maybe, we would toss some food toward the animal to show we are friendly. Then again, when we develop a tract of land for future homes, we simply rip out all of the vegetation, start building and hope every living thing runs away. We never greet the animals inhabiting the place. We don’t rehome the inhabitants or even say ‘sorry.’
The operators of the UAP share the same universe as us, and I would think share some of the basic aspects of evolution as us. For example, different species compete for resources on the planet. I would assume the operators of the UAPs won that competition as they are now a space travelling extraterrestrial. The same idea goes for us and we are currently the winners of that game of competition for resources. Since they have evolved based on competition as humans did, Is it not possible that they have the same mindset we have?
In other words, if we came across another group of intelligent beings would we greet them in a friendly and open manner hoping to establish a means for financial cooperation(trading goods)? I would hope so, at least Americans would. Then again, that assumption is based on the fact that I believe in capitalism and freedom. They could in fact simply want to dominate and control us more in the communistic, fascist way. In that case, maybe they would just try to figure us out before they decide to take over?
How would they perceive us if we did to them what they do to us? If we simply showed up at will near their military training areas, nuclear weapons and nuclear power plants without any introduction and then left at will when we felt like it, how would they perceive that? If we shut their nuclear weapons on and off, how would they perceive that? If we hovered over their ocean waters in what appears is an attempt to harvest ‘something’ from the water, how would they perceive that? How would they feel if we started to fly in their busy air corridors without checking in with their ‘air traffic control’ in order to avoid deadly collisions?
Why is there no true attempt to establish a relationship with us? Why do they simply show up at will, run around mainly our military locations, shut our nuclear weapons off and then turn them on? Why do they make us aware of their presence and then nothing more?
Are they scouts? I don’t know. They don’t really hide themselves so maybe they’re not scouts. Maybe, they’re curious. Do we introduce ourselves to ants when we investigate an ant farm? No. Do we intend to hurt ants? Not really. Do we feel the need to disguise ourselves so the ants don’t see us? No. Of course, if an ant bites us, we don’t generally punish it, we ‘destroy’ it via ant spray, etc, which is a punishment which is extreme given the ‘offense.’ However, we have no way to communicate with ants and so really, the only way to stop the ant bites is ant control.
I do think however, if, as an example, we were able to go back in time 5000 years while maintaining our technological equipment, would we treat the ancient Egyptians with respect? Would we honor their laws? Or would we settle down on the Nile river and force them to make room for us? What would we do and how would we treat them? I think more than likely, we would be good to them. That depends on which of us goes into the past, I suppose. We can be inconsiderate to our fellow inhabitants of the earth, but we can be kind, too. We give shelter and food to our pets. We live peacefully alongside birds and lizards.
I think the operators of these UAP have to understand we are sentient beings and its only proper to establish genial contact with us. We are the inhabitants of this planet and it is our home. They should ask permission to fly in our skies. They should make an attempt to follow the rules of our societies/government. They should ask permission to hang out on our planet.
Are they harvesting our water? Why? Is it a fairly rare resource that humans will need (besides the obvious reasons) in the future in order for us to advance ourselves technologically? I think of the conquistadores who depleted the new world of all its gold. Is something like this going on?
I believe if they are friendly, they would not want to cause or elicit any distress from us. For all I know, they have established formal contact with world leaders, but it has been kept quiet. If that is the case, world leaders should speak up because the people of the world are concerned. Though many may not be able to articulate it, there is a great uneasiness about knowing they’re regularly visiting the above mentioned locations, especially as it appears no genuine attempt for contact has been made.
Then again, maybe we’re savage bumpkins that have no clue that interplanetary travel is common. Maybe, we’re making a big deal out of nothing in the eyes of the UAP operators. Maybe, we’re the only group that has the concept of ‘country’ and leaders. Maybe they are to us, what we are to the noncontactable tribes in south america? Maybe, we’re so primitive in their eyes that any attempt at genuine communication would be pointless? Still, if I come across birds in a cage, I try to greet them and respect them. If I am at a horse stables, I may pet some of the horses and respect them.
The operators of the UAP leave us wondering, and that’s an inappropriate way to interact with any sentient, intelligent beings.
It’s official – UFOs are ‘real.’ ‘Real’ as in ‘can be tracked on radar and other devices’ and appear to not be made by any known ‘human beings.’ The conclusion comes from the fact that, it appears based on research, UAPs are NOT made by humans since no one can confirm humans made them and they appear to exhibit capabilities that no human civilization has been capable of.
I’m currently fascinated by UFOs given what is going on in the news lately regarding the irrefutable evidence of their existence. I have never seen a UAP, and I don’t know if that’s a good thing or a bad thing. All I can write on is what I come across from reputable online sources.
Please note that this page is a work in progress.
SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO GET STARTED LEARNING ABOUT UAP
I would like to make suggestions for you on how to get started investigating the UAP subject. It is a huge topic and its easy to get lost and sidetracked. To get a good overview of the topic, review the first two Lue Elizondo interview videos that I’ve posted below. Make sure to review the videos in their entirety as they provide a great introduction, and try to take notes. I personally prefer the video by the New York Post because its filled with details, however, the video by the Washington Post is good, too. Then after you’ve gotten your grounding on the subject, its time to jump into a true case study – the Nimitz Encounter. It seems the Nimitz case is the best documented evidence that is available to the general public. I will point you to the Nimitz case later on this page. Its so well documented, that you’d struggle to dispute this event ever happened.
Thank you to all involved in the Nimitz incident for your revealing the information that you can. And thank you to Lue Elizondo and Christopher Mellon for finally bringing the concept of UFOs into the mainstream and adding much needed gravitas to the subject.
APPROACH THE UFO/UAP FROM A SOLELY SCIENTIFIC PERSPECTIVE
If you’re new to the field of ufology, as I am, there are many ways to study it. I prefer the scientific way of studying it because its easier to prove. I invite you to view ufology from a scientific perspective because it takes unproveable ‘personal tales’ and sets those aside as anecdotal evidence. Why? Because its nearly impossible to prove personal events such as UFO abductions. Personal tales are impossible to measure accurately and, consequently, leave a lot of room for error and conjecture. The scientific method concentrates on those physical aspects which can be described and measured and, therefore, recorded as strong evidence of their existence. Please note, I’m not saying that UFO abductions are false, I’m saying that given our current technology, we cannot prove they are true. I suspect the only way to prove them is for someone to wear a Gopro camera for example.
BUT I’M NOT A SCIENTIST?
You don’t have to be a scientist to scientifically study UFO/UAP sources of information. Basically, studying something scientifically means measuring and recording physical evidence against predefined standards that hopefully, can and should be repeatable. For example, it is one thing to say I am 5 foot 6 inches tall (which is a physical measurement based on the predefined standard of feet and inches) verses saying I’m the height of fully grown person (what does that mean? fully grown people can be very short to very tall). I hope that gives you an idea of the difference between scientific evidence and anecdotal evidence.
So what are scientific measurements? Measurements include time, date, longitude, latitude, altitude, diameter, width, height, length, shape, frequency, wavelength, infrared, direction of travel, point of origin, speed, acceleration, other reactions to electronics, etc. So when you do your research, make sure your sources provide you measurable evidence.
Now, I think our world has reached a sufficiently technologically advanced ability with radar, cameras, satellites, etc that we’re able to finally accurately and precisely measure UFOs/UAPs and also make sure that our equipment is operating properly. I don’t think we’ve really had that ability until recent times. Because of that, we’ve never really had genuine irrefutable ‘scientific’ evidence. At least not evidence or equipment readily available to the public. As I understand it, UFO craft have actually crashed on earth and been retrieved by the US Government. The Government has yet to officially reveal that they do have crashed UFO remains so I will leave that subject alone for now.
Why is our current technologically advanced equipment such a game changer in regard to UFO/UAP studies? Because these advanced radars, cameras and satellites can see what we can’t see. There is more around us that we can’t see than what we can see. To illustrate, are you aware the common flea, the kind that lives on dogs, is blind? However, a flea can detect blood and the flea will jump to places where it detects blood…and yet a flea is blind and has no concept of the world that you and I are aware of that includes the colors and structures of our visible world. The flea lives in the midst of so much and has no idea! The flea only cares about finding blood and so that’s all it ‘sees.’ So this technologically advanced equipment serves to see things that we can’t and then obtain that information and serve it to us in a manner that we can visually see on a computer screen (for example). For example, we can’t see infrared wavelength although we definitely can feel it. Infrared is a great way to see objects that have(or don’t have) any kind of temperature, or in the parlance of ‘experts,’ a heat signature.
Here are useful links regarding UFO/UAP Intelligence Report and Suggestions on How to Investigate Further.
Begin with the 60 minutes interview to get a good overview of what happened. Then review the Kevin Day interview because this is where the STORY REALLY BEGINS and includes much detailed information regarding how the UAPs were discovered. The 60 minute interview discusses the pilots encountering the UAPs. The Kevin Day interview discusses events that occurred before the pilot encounter when the UAPs were first seen on radar and it was determined that pilots should go out to see in person what’s going on.
GREAT VIDEO ABOUT SCIENTIFIC CIVILIAN (NONGOVERNMENT) STUDY OF UAP